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	<title>Comments on: So you want an elected Senate? Think twice.</title>
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	<description>Jeremy Handcock</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Handcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Handcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sabrina S.: Yes, I compiled the graph using data obtained from the LEGISinfo database. Feel free to cite these data, however, note that the numbers haven&#039;t been reviewed by anyone but myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sabrina S.: Yes, I compiled the graph using data obtained from the LEGISinfo database. Feel free to cite these data, however, note that the numbers haven't been reviewed by anyone but myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you compile the graph? i need to do something similar for a paper and if I use your graph as part of my research then I need to cite it properly. Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Handcock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Handcock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment!

I think point 1) has more to do with electoral reform in general.  I respect the position of many Green Party and NDP supporters who want to see proportional representation in the House and the Senate.  However, federal governments that have a strong minority or majority of seats represented by mainstream political parties (the Liberals and the Conservatives) will be more progressive and functional than governments cobbled together in a coalition of small, disparate parties.  Again, more democratic does not equal better IMO.

WRT point 2), I&#039;d argue that an unelected Senate would be more likely to be all those things.

Not sure I agree with &quot;The Senate is irrelevant and doesn&#039;t do much at all.&quot;  Clearly they&#039;re doing &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt; in there.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
<p>I think point 1) has more to do with electoral reform in general.  I respect the position of many Green Party and NDP supporters who want to see proportional representation in the House and the Senate.  However, federal governments that have a strong minority or majority of seats represented by mainstream political parties (the Liberals and the Conservatives) will be more progressive and functional than governments cobbled together in a coalition of small, disparate parties.  Again, more democratic does not equal better IMO.</p>
<p>WRT point 2), I'd argue that an unelected Senate would be more likely to be all those things.</p>
<p>Not sure I agree with "The Senate is irrelevant and doesn't do much at all."  Clearly they're doing <em>something</em> in there.  <img src='http://aperte.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senate 2.0 should be elected on a proportional representation basis, therefore
  1. includes the Green party and other parties that never get past the post
  2. is accountable to the interests of the nation as a whole, opposing gerrymandering, pork projects and local politics
 
Of course, the conservatives aren&#039;t really considering this, but I can dream.

I think the simplest explanation for your data above is not &quot;The Senate is currently a house of sober second thought&quot; and more &quot;The Senate is currently irrelevant and doesn&#039;t do much at all.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senate 2.0 should be elected on a proportional representation basis, therefore<br />
  1. includes the Green party and other parties that never get past the post<br />
  2. is accountable to the interests of the nation as a whole, opposing gerrymandering, pork projects and local politics<br />
 <br />
Of course, the conservatives aren't really considering this, but I can dream.</p>
<p>I think the simplest explanation for your data above is not "The Senate is currently a house of sober second thought" and more "The Senate is currently irrelevant and doesn't do much at all."</p>
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